sunnymood
Member
Russian
- Mar 8, 2012
- #1
Dear friends,
Can you help me please?
How can I say correctly:
'Fresh fruit and vegetables are MORE HEALTHY or HEALTHIER than fast food.'
I'm confused how to form comparatives from 'healthy', 'happy', etc.
Thank you in advance.
Miss Julie
Senior Member
Chicago metro area
English-U.S.
- Mar 8, 2012
- #2
Both are correct; they have equal meaning. They're just two ways of saying the same thing.
morzh
Banned
USA
Russian
- Mar 8, 2012
- #3
Both are good; however from natives I hear ""healthier" more often and somehow from non-natives - "more healthy"
Don't ask me why it is.
T
toway
Senior Member
Russian
- Mar 8, 2012
- #4
Maybe it's weird but I thought that "more healthy" was incorrect form because there is only one syllable in this word.
Miss Julie
Senior Member
Chicago metro area
English-U.S.
- Mar 8, 2012
- #5
morzh said:
Both are good; however from natives I hear ""healthier" more often and somehow from non-natives - "more healthy"
Don't ask me why it is.
True..."more healthy" is probably used more often (with the use of "even") to add emphasis:
Yogurt is healthy, Greek yogurt is healthier, and fat-free Greek yogurt is even more healthy.
morzh
Banned
USA
Russian
- Mar 8, 2012
- #6
Miss Julie said:
Yogurt is healthy, Greek yogurt is healthier, and fat-free Greek yogurt is even more healthy.
(and this is all we have enough money for in Greece today )
acme_54
Banned
Valencia, Spain
English UK
- Mar 8, 2018
- #7
Healthy actually has 2 syllables: heal-thy. Both forms (healthier/more healthy) are acceptable.
R
Rover_KE
Senior Member
Northwest England - near Blackburn, Lancashire
British English
- Mar 9, 2018
- #8
morzh said:
Both are good; however from natives I hear ""healthier" more often and somehow from non-natives - "more healthy"
That's right: native speakers are much more likely to say 'healthier'.
(See 'Healthy Eating' by Herb Omlet and Letty Sleeves.)
acme_54
Banned
Valencia, Spain
English UK
- Mar 15, 2018
- #9
sunnymood said:
Dear friends,
'Fresh fruit and vegetables are MORE HEALTHY or HEALTHIER than fast food.'
In this case, for some reason I can't quite pin down, I prefer "healthier". But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't use "more healthy" in another sentence, perhaps to make it flow better in a written text.
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Rosinoel
New Member
Sauce, Canelones, Uruguay
Spanish
- Sep 5, 2019
- #10
The same happens with the adjective friendly. It is common to say MORE FRIENDLY , but some people say friendlier
DonnyB
Moderator Emeritus
Coventry, UK
English UK Southern Standard English
- Sep 5, 2019
- #11
Please see this thread instead if you'd like to discuss 'friendlier vs. more friendly':
Friendlier/more friendly
Mrs B.
New Member
British English and French
- Nov 3, 2021
- #12
Not so correct...
healthier, happier, friendlier are correct.
Here's the rule :
- When adjectives count 2 syllables AND ends with -ow, -le, -er, or -y, they are considered as short adjectives, therefore you add -er at the end to form the comparative (or 'the ...-est' to form the superlative).
Same for 1 syllable adjectives (obviously short!).
- When an adjective counts 2 syllables AND DOESN'T end with -ow, -le, -er, or -y, it is considered as a long adjective, therefore you add 'more' before it to form the comparative (or 'the... -est' to form the superlative).
Same goes for adjectives counting 3 syllables or more.
Hope this helps !
lingobingo
Senior Member
London
English - England
- Nov 3, 2021
- #13
I’m not sure that those rules hold water, do they?
They seem to imply that senile would be come seniler, dapper would become dapperer, and happy would become happyer.
Keith Bradford
Senior Member
Brittany, NW France
English (Midlands UK)
- Nov 3, 2021
- #14
lingobingo said:
I’m not sure that those rules hold water, do they?...
Of course not. "Rules" in English never hold water. Only guidelines hold water, for a certain value of probability.
We mostly said "more healthy than" up to about 150 years ago, and then we started preferring "healthier than". Now we only use the longer form about 5% of the time, but it's still accepted as correct.
J
JillN
Senior Member
Texas/Oregon
USA - English
- Jan 10, 2023
- #15
lingobingo said:
I’m not sure that those rules hold water, do they?
They seem to imply that senile would be come seniler, dapper would become dapperer, and happy would become happyer.
Happy becomes happier.
lingobingo
Senior Member
London
English - England
- Jan 10, 2023
- #16
Yes, I’m sure we all know that. But my comment was meant as a joke (not that I remember posting it ). In fact, if you did actually apply that rule as stated, you’d get senileer.
The “rules” quoted in #12 seem to come from a spurious source (What is the comparative adjective of healthy? – FastAdvices).
S
sitifan
Senior Member
Taiwan
Hokkien & Mandarin Chinese
- Mar 29, 2023
- #17
Which is correct, 'healthier' or 'more healthy'?
Both of them are correct. The general guidance is that you use the -er suffix with one-syllable words, or with words that end in -y (like healthy), and precede the word with more instead for all other words. But this is a question only of style, not of grammar. Both constructions are grammatically correct. The writer can choose one or the other, depending on which one he or she thinks works better in a particular sentence.
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