Official Cubs Game Thread! (2024)

Discus fish salesman said:

And he'll inevitably regress outside Colorado. I'm fine trading a non top 20 prospect for him. But I'm not trading Ballesteros, or any other prospect with real value.

This team sucks. There's 0 reason for them to buy unless it's a long term piece who can be a core piece.

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Not a thing anymore. All MLB teams use humidifier baseballs thus the hitting across baseball has taken a nose dive.

Again do your research before making baseless comments.

Also framing and D has nothing to do with what you said.

Again not sure on your point.

And teams will pay for a need if it can push to a ring.

This one you are not wrong about.

But it would be a all in. Trade for Parades and Miller then rent Diaz with the intention to resign.

You make those 3 moves it will turn the ship around.

CSF77 said:

Not a thing anymore. All MLB teams use humidifier baseballs thus the hitting across baseball has taken a nose dive.

Again do your research before making baseless comments.

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Also framing and D has nothing to do with what you said.

Again not sure on your point.

And teams will pay for a need if it can push to a ring.

This one you are not wrong about.

But it would be a all in. Trade for Parades and Miller then rent Diaz with the intention to resign.

You make those 3 moves it will turn the ship around.

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Colorado will always be a better hitters park not only because of environmental factors but the huge outfield is advantageous for hitters. You thinking this team should buy is delusionally stupid. Lol at the idea of this team pushing for a ring.

Discus fish salesman said:

Colorado will always be a better hitters park not only because of environmental factors but the huge outfield is advantageous for hitters. You thinking this team should buy is delusionally stupid. Lol at the idea of this team pushing for a ring.

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Park factor is a valid reasoning and Coors is the top in that metric. Even though I would not discount a player that is viewed at a strong D player at the hardest position with plus value at O. Regardless of invalid arguments against

2nd part

They were worse last year and went crazy right before the dead line and was in it until the end

So this is a jaded topic as I believe that this team is broken but as stated it is a 3 headed issue.

Well 4 as the current team needs to get it together and stop acting like the season is long or another excuse to pass the buck on a loss.

It comes down to $$$ to be honest. The park is a event to get drunk at. But Marque subs drop expect a change ASAP.

Jed at the end of the day is Tom's lap dog. Let's don't try to make this into anything else. If Tom says fetch Jed is running and expecting a good boy.

CSF77 said:

Park factor is a valid reasoning and Coors is the top in that metric. Even though I would not discount a player that is viewed at a strong D player at the hardest position with plus value at O. Regardless of invalid arguments against

2nd part

They were worse last year and went crazy right before the dead line and was in it until the end

So this is a jaded topic as I believe that this team is broken but as started it is a 3 headed issue.

Well 4 as the current team needs to get it together and stop acting like the season is long or another excuse to pass the buck on a loss

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I was very much against them buying last year as well. If they are buying it shouldn't be marginal rental players

Discus fish salesman said:

I was very much against them buying last year as well. If they are buying it shouldn't be marginal rental players

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Catcher is at a premium right now due to the lack of talent. Cubs were pretty good at development there until Jody Davis left. We are seeing a talent lull as a result

It is what is is right now. If you had to pin point areas.

3B. They have nothing
C. They have nothing
Closer. They have talent in pitching but lack that established closer.

All 3 are pretty equal in clear needs. A closer might be #1 of the 3. You really need to have that stability at the back and everything builds off of it

Then catcher. A catcher impacts the game almost equally as the pitcher. In game calling controlling a running game. Getting the close strikes called.

There have been countless in zone pitches called as a ball. Even if it was not framing it is the Catchers job to know the umps zone and get the pitcher to attack it.

To have a contending team you need a strong staff and a strong staff needs a strong catcher. It is pretty simple.

Cubs are dead last in catcher in all regards

3B can change on a dime if Morel gets his BABIP up to .250-.290. his BB and SO are rather good. He just hits it to a glove.

He needs to do some situational hitting work also. If you have guys at 2nd and 3rd and a single to RF scores 2 then learn to do that vs swing for the fence.

That has to stop in general. Cody reinvented himself into a strong 2 strike hitter that puts it where they are not. They need more of that.

bears5150 said:

I think you need at least 3 players that are core guys, Belly is one. If they can get 1st and 3rd as core guys then the rest of these guys are complimentary to the core. Oh and another solid starter and closer

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Was looking at this on Fansgraphs

Busch 1.4 fWAR and a 126 wRC+

Suzuki .8 fWAR 128 wRC+. his D drags his WAR down. He should be the primary DH right now as he brings plus value at the plate

Bellinger 118 wRC+. Def at a dislike value. 1.1 fWAR
Passable and has flex

Tauchman 116 wRC+ and a slight dislike value on D. 1.2 fWAR

LF is a area to upgrade. Happ has been at 101 wRC+ and a -value D for a .7 fWAR. You want more O out of LF. Canario had a 136 wRC+ in his stint. So there has been a issue here.

Swanson and PCA have equal impact on D both have bad O. Swanson 89. PCA 65 wRC+. But both have hit and nothing suggests that this is a permanent issue. Based off of D alone both can put up 5 fWAR just with avg O due to this high value D.

This ties to what I have been saying about 3B C and a closer. The rest of the team has value. Even in this sh*t show their numbers are not offensive.

The pen lost 2 games on this series. Should have been a sweep.

So that is a ongoing issue. IMO Leiter should be in situational. They need to lean on Brewer and Miller more in lead holds vs mop up. Both have been refreshing in a sh*t show this year.

So regarding your point. Busch has gotten over.the first league pitching adjustment. He is on pace for a 4 fWAR rookie season and that doesn't suck. He should be a core player

Suzuki as the DH should increase his value as his D won't drag it down. Hitting wise he is the best hitter on the team and a core player

Bellinger should move to RF full time. His D value should go up this increasing his fWAR.

Thos are your core 3. PCA, Swanson are glove guys at premium. Horner has been a spark plug when healthy. Injury bug has got him this year. Tauchman should take over LF. Happ is underperforming for a LF.

Morel has been just bad. Bote is a clear upgrade at 3B and it is not even close. Positive value D and 110 wRC+. VS Morel -8 DEF (ranks as the worst defender in baseball,) and a 106 wRC+. SO 6% better hitter than avg for a sh*t show at 3B.

Ya this is the team right now

One of the biggest problems is Craig. He keeps putting together crappy lines ups and pushes his guys out in the pen vs the guys that have been consistent.

So that was supposed to be the biggest strength going in and it has been a train wreck.

One thing that we need to remember is last year the catching was better. That was on Ross as he was that guy. So that affects the staff. Makes the staff overachieve.

After Craig took over the catching went back to their talent level and the staff suffered for it

This might end up costing Jed his job. Axeing Ross and spending mega and the end result is lower performance of the team.